[Air-L] The difficult conversation we don't seem to be having

g. tavmen mail2gunes at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Jan 22 03:34:33 PST 2024


 Ayelet, you basically parrot the official Israeli propaganda that we hear over and over again on media but I'd be much more interested in what you actually have to suggest. So would you like us to ignore the catastrophic situation in Gaza because Hamas attacked first? (which, by the way, is also not true but let's go with your skewed argument..)
Can you please advise as an Israeli how should we respond to the death of thousands of children, destruction of hospitals and all of the universities in Gaza and many other atrocities? Really interested in hearing this instead of telling us something we hear over and over again every single day on mass media. What should be the next step? Please guide us.

    On Monday, 22 January 2024 at 10:49:50 GMT, Ayelet Baram-Tsabari via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:  
 
 Dear Air-Ls,
As you, I am worried about the loss of life in Gaza, but I cannot but wonder about the omission of the trigger for the war: In the wake of Saturday, October 7th, Israel was attacked by about 5000 Hamas terrorists, who systematically slaughtered and burned alive family after family in villages near the Gaza border, rapped women before killing them in the music festival in Re’im, and sadistically tortured kids in front of their parents.  One of those murdered was Yasmin Zohar, a M.Sc. student of a friend of mine. Yasmin, her two daughters, her husband, and her father were all brutally slaughtered in their home in Kibbutz Nahal Oz that Saturday morning. Only her son Ariel, almost 13, survived. He moved to live with his uncles in the city of Rishon LeZion – where I grew up. So many Harry Potters were created that day.
This is a complex situation with a long history. At the moment, Israel is responding to an immediate unprovoked terrorist attack against civilians by Hamas, who publicly promised to do that again. Looking at the affiliations of those responding in the list, I can safely say that your countries would have – and in fact have already done so in the past – reacted similarly to such attacks.
Like you, I also follow with horror what happens in Gaza. But sometimes, it seems to me, that I care more about the hungry and futureless kids in Gaza, than the Western Pro-Palestinians protesters who, in fact, work hard to allow the continuation of Hamas control there. As I see it, this is practically like supporting the Taliban's control over Afghanistan instead of supporting Afghanis who try to get rid of the Taliban.
Best
Ayelet Baram-Tsabari
Technion – Israel Institute of Technology

-----Original Message-----
From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Alia ElKattan via Air-L
Sent: Monday, 22 January 2024 10:39
To: Sky Croeser <scroeser at gmail.com>
Cc: Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
Subject: Re: [Air-L] The difficult conversation we don't seem to be having

Thanks so much for this Sky.

Especially as every university in Gaza had been partially or fully destroyed, hundreds of professors and academics have been killed, and academic institutions outside Gaza have engaged in targeting and suppression of pro-Palestine speech, I am fully supportive of an academic boycott and a clear stance of public solidarity and action. Also interested in any research efforts to better understand internet research in the Palestinian context.

Given the online and livestreamed nature of this genocide where we've seen people telling us the horrific atrocities committed against them in real time on all our internet platforms, often followed by news of their murder, it is imperative for an association of internet researchers to take a stance.

Not to mention the nature of online suppression, disinformation, doxxing, and harassment that has been at the center of a campaign to justify and even celebrate the murder of over 30,000 people and the forced starvation and displacement of millions amidst an intentional destruction of lifesaving healthcare and telecommunication (including internet) facilities.

Thank you for initiating this, and please count me in for any efforts moving forward.

Best,
Alia ElKattan
NYU Politics PhD student

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024, 10:33 pm Sky Croeser via Air-L, < air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
> This is a difficult message to write, and I know that it will probably
> open some difficult conversations. I realised this morning that I was
> shying away from having these conversations because I don’t want to
> create problems for the many colleagues who I respect and am fond of within AoIR.
> And while I do care about all of you, sometimes care means being brave
> (and perhaps annoying) instead of being polite.
>
>
> So. We need to talk about Gaza. And we need to talk about Israel. Many
> of us have been speaking up individually, but our voices have more
> power when we bring them together. I have signed on to other open
> letters, but I think there are also important reasons for the
> Association of Internet Researchers to take a stance.
>
>
> *What I am suggesting?*
>
> I am asking for us to have a discussion about some form of public
> solidarity with Palestinians who are currently under attack, and with
> those within Israel and around the world who are speaking up against
> the actions of the Israeli state.
>
>
> It might involve a statement of solidarity for those who are under
> attack in Gaza and other parts of Palestine, and for people engaged in
> non-violent resistance to the actions of the Israeli state. It might
> involve joining the international call for an academic boycott of
> Israeli institutions complicit in the ongoing violence against
> Palestinians (the guidelines for which are available here <
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> >). It
> might involve a commitment to ask our own academic institutions to cut
> their ties with the Israeli state. It might take some other format.
>
>
> *Why now?*
>
> There are many acts of violence and oppression happening around the world.
> Why should our academic organisation speak up on this, specifically?
>
>
> Because the scale of the violence is immense and continuing <
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> exceeding that of any recent armed conflict. There is no end in sight,
> and the deliberate restriction of food, water, and medicine means that
> people within Gaza face starvation and disease as well as bombing and
> other forms of direct violence.
>
>
> Because many of us are based in countries which are prepared to
> condemn other atrocities, but are unwilling to issue more than
> lukewarm statements about the Israeli state’s violence against
> Palestinians. For example, Australia’s foreign minister Penny Wong <
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> “has met with Israeli relatives of hostages held by Hamas and assured
> them that she will continue to use Australia’s voice to call for the
> immediate, unconditional and safe return of all hostages” and affirmed
> Australian support for Israel, while only “raising concerns” about the
> humanitarian situation in Gaza. Australia has also supported the US/UK
> bombing of Yemen <
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> >
> in retailation for their disruption of shipping routes to Israel.
> Where our own governments will not speak up for human rights, we have
> an obligation to raise our voices.
>
>
> Because AoIR is <
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> > “is committed
> to the most fundamental principles of academic freedom, equality of
> opportunity, and human dignity.” The last university in Gaza has now
> been destroyed <
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> by the Israeli army, along with many schools. Students from these
> universities feel their loss keenly <
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> trying to stay alive through bombings and the denial of their basic
> human needs. Countless Palestinian academics <
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> Palestinian educational institutions are not new <
> https://prot/
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> Calls for protection
> <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.tandfonline.com_doi_full_10.1080_0305792/
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> > have
> gone unheeded.
>
>
> Because the digital technologies that many of us research are woven
> through this conflict. Israeli authorities are using facial
> recognition technology <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
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> to entrench apartheid. The Israeli military is using an “AI” system to
> “generate targets”
> <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.npr.org_2023_12_14_1218643254_israel-2di/
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> >.
> Telecommunications systems are shut down <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.aljazeera.com_news_2023_10_27_israel-2di/
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> >,
> making it difficult for people in Gaza to communicate while under attack.
> Large tech companies have been providing key systems to the Israeli
> government <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
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> >.
>
>
> Because Israeli citizens who protest
> <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.npr.org_2024_01_19_1225651180_israel-2dt/
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> >
> the actions of their government (including on social media) face <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.washingtonpost.com_world_2023_11_12_isra/
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> >
> jail
> <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.reuters.com_world_middle-2deast_israeli-/
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> >
> and threats of violence
> <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.972mag.com_israeli-2dprotest-2dgaza-2dwa/
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> >, as do those
> who refuse to serve in the army
> <
> https://prot/
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> Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__http://www.france24.com_en_live-2dnews_20240115-2di/
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> >.
> They deserve our support and solidarity.
>
>
>
> *Why **are we** silent?*
>
> I do not think that AoIR has tended to position itself as a neutral or
> apolitical organisation. Past conference themes <
> https://prot/
> ect.checkpoint.com%2Fv2%2F___https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2
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> included “Revolutions” and “Decolonising the Internet”. My sense is
> that there was also a response and a discussion within the
> organisation to the Black Lives Matter movement, among other issues.
>
>
> Of course, I am aware that academic organisations will not often
> respond to international events. Perhaps the silence so far is
> entirely for this reason. Perhaps we are afraid that if we speak up on
> this we will also be asked to speak about Sudan, Congo, and other
> issues (would that be
> terrible?)
>
>
> However, I think that we must also acknowledge the chilling effect
> that many academics and others experience specifically on the matter of Israel.
>
>
> Antisemitism is a real and significant problem in the world. However,
> the ongoing attempt to conflate all criticism of Israel with
> antisemitism is intellectually dishonest and dangerous <
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> It also frequently glosses over the long history of Jewish <
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> > to
> the formation of Israel. Organisations like the ADL put forward claims
> that groups like A Jewish Voice for Peace are antisemitic *because*
> they are anti-Zionist. Similarly, Canary Mission lists university
> students, professors, and organisations that criticise the Israeli
> state alongside neo-nazi organisations like the “Daily Stormer”,
> conflating legitimate criticism of the Israeli government with violent antisemitism.
>
>
> I understand that many people do not want to contribute to the real
> antisemitism faced by our friends, colleagues, and students face. We
> all have a duty to oppose antisemitism in our communities and universities.
> Perhaps that leads to a reluctance to speak out about the Israeli
> state’s actions. However, I believe that we can oppose both
> antisemitism and Israeli state violence. The Israeli state does not
> speak for, or act for, all <
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> We should not allow them to claim that they do.
>
>
> We also must be aware that organisations like Canary Mission work hard
> to impose <
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> on students and teachers within universities who do speak up. A
> variety of governments have also worked to ban the
> Boycott-Divest-Sanctions movement <
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> >. There are therefore real
> material consequences for speaking against the actions of the Israeli
> state. Perhaps that is enough that we do not want to put AoIR as an
> organisation, or fellow academics within AoIR, in a difficult position.
>
>
> But if that’s the case, let’s at least acknowledge it. Let’s make it
> visible. Let us be aware that our organisation, and its commitments to
> values like diversity and inclusion <
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